An Interactive Lecture

Can a fashion designer become a tech bro?

The argument, as it was given in the room, here

Rachel McBride · Chloé Julian · 21 September 2026, 4pm · University of Otago, OW1.01 Owheo Building · An entrepreneurship co-lab with Te Kura Pakihi | Otago Business School

Two ways of seeing

Rachel McBride, in cobalt.
Chloé Julian, in vermilion.

Rachel McBride’s position

Chloé went from waiting in swanky London hotel rooms for Rihanna to building an AI-native brand here in Aotearoa. A company she designed. A life she designed. Who decides if she gets to be a technologist?

Chloé Julian’s position

All I need is vision. My creativity, grounded in technology, my vision doesn’t need translation. I can build the exact thing I see, shaped to my business.

Below this line is the argument as it was given, the traces the room left in it, and the part of the question that is still open.

Rachel McBride · Chloé Julian
University of Otago · 2026
An entrepreneurship co-lab with
Te Kura Pakihi | Otago Business School
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v1.5 · 8 September 2026